i think the world cup is really good for germany and our damaged self-conciousness. Definitely!!
all the flag showing is for me, in the first place, a sign of cheering on our squad Yes, exactly. I certainly wouldn't have gotten a flag if I didn't love the team, footie enthusiasm or not.
you identify with germany, feel like a german See, that's the thing I don't get: How can you identify with a country? How do you "feel German"? That's the sort of lumping-people-together-patriotism that I don't understand.
I think the wave of patriotism will fade after the world cup Most likely, yes.
and I think there's nothing wrong with showing that you like to live here I agree, but I don't think that has anything to do with "public displays of patriotism." In fact, outside of the World Cup, many of those that are most "patriotic" are the ones that do least for the country. The sort of people that were born here, never had the chance (or ambition) to go anywhere else, get their politics news from the Bild and vote whoever their Stammtischbrüder tell them to. Maybe I'm stereotyping there, but that's not the sort of thing I want. The best way to show that you love a country is not to wave flags and sing anthems, but to actually do something - volunteer, vote on an informed basis, be a good example when in a different country.
say how great i think all the flag showing is Not disagreeing with that at all. :)
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Date: 2006-06-15 10:12 pm (UTC)Definitely!!
all the flag showing is for me, in the first place, a sign of cheering on our squad
Yes, exactly. I certainly wouldn't have gotten a flag if I didn't love the team, footie enthusiasm or not.
you identify with germany, feel like a german
See, that's the thing I don't get: How can you identify with a country? How do you "feel German"? That's the sort of lumping-people-together-patriotism that I don't understand.
I think the wave of patriotism will fade after the world cup
Most likely, yes.
and I think there's nothing wrong with showing that you like to live here
I agree, but I don't think that has anything to do with "public displays of patriotism." In fact, outside of the World Cup, many of those that are most "patriotic" are the ones that do least for the country. The sort of people that were born here, never had the chance (or ambition) to go anywhere else, get their politics news from the Bild and vote whoever their Stammtischbrüder tell them to. Maybe I'm stereotyping there, but that's not the sort of thing I want. The best way to show that you love a country is not to wave flags and sing anthems, but to actually do something - volunteer, vote on an informed basis, be a good example when in a different country.
say how great i think all the flag showing is
Not disagreeing with that at all. :)